Each little action counts, sister. And my guest today is the perfect example of this in practice. If each of us believes our actions have impact, we WILL change the world. It’s a choice, though, to believe we have impact and agency, and that if we put our minds to anything huge, we will be able to achieve it.
Colleen Osborne, my soul sister, multi-time client – literally, this incredible woman was in Goddess on Purpose and then my business Mastermind, Goddess on Fire – and friend is going to be the President of the United States. Okay, maybe not, but she is an incredible leader and a perfect example of making a big difference with small actions that matter.
Colleen and I are talking about:
- What small actions Colleen has taken in her own world that has changed the lives of countless people around her.
- How to get around Imposter Syndrome so that you can do everything your heart desires boldly and bravely!
- The key to taking the first step in leveling yourself up.
- How everyone has a labor of love project, and how to figure out what yours is.
- That impact for yourself is also impact that changes the world
- How to stay grounded, centered and clear while doing the hardest work of changing the world.
Colleen got so much out of the Goddess on Purpose program, and now you can too! Want to be a Goddess on Purpose? Goddess on Purpose started this past Wednesday but you can still sneak in! And sister, this is THE PLACE. (http://www.goddessonpurposecourse.com). To uncover your purpose, to do so in a feminine, PurposePowerful, juicy way? Among sisters all over the world, likeminded women doing all of this with you, Goddess on Purpose is the only way! Join us, Sister!
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About Colleen Osborne:
Through personal and leadership coaching, leadership development, and her writing, Colleen Osborne serves others in their quest for personal discovery, growth, and having a meaningful impact on the world. She is owner of Osborne Associates Consulting, a business which is devoted to helping humans and purpose-driven organizations achieve their full potential. Colleen sees herself as a Catalyst for growth, evolution, and change at the individual, organizational and societal levels.
Colleen is working to “Level Up” the human species. She deeply believes in Hope and views Hope as an active endeavor. Her blog, Alive with Hope, and her newsletter, The Good News and The Good Do’s, spread hopeful messages and encourage people to change the world, one tiny action at a time.
She is changing the world through her involvement with local initiatives to address homelessness, using her skills to amplify, uplift and support women of color, being an outspoken voice for belonging, and promoting civil dialogue to bridge differences.
With 30 years of professional experience, Colleen’s expertise spans human resources, training and development, leadership development, coaching, and mediation.
She is a Career Development Facilitator and a certified Coach through the International Coach Federation and the Newfield Network. In her free time, Colleen enjoys meditation, qi gong, time with her husband Hugh, and building community in Wheat Ridge, Colorado, where she lives.
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May you live purposefully, may you love yourself, and may you love life!!
Bye for now!
Carin Rockind 0:07
Are you ready for true happiness, for deep fulfillment, for feeling alive, on purpose and in control of your life again? It's time to be the bold, brilliant, beautiful woman you were born to be. Welcome to the PurposeGirl Podcast, I'm women's happiness and life purpose expert, Carin Rockind, and I'm going to teach you how to live on purpose, feel alive and be happy in every aspect of life. I'm going to get real about my life and interview women who are living on purpose so that you can finally live yours. Welcome to the show.
Hello, hello, hello, my PurposeGirls. So if you're anything like me, the last year - no, the last four years, maybe even beyond that - have been disheartening. We've seen so much in the news, seeing people storm our capital, here in the United States, seeing so much wealth and still hungry children everywhere, seeing kids kept in cages here in the United States and other places. Seeing people murdered, our black and brown sisters and brothers murdered. There has been so much. And if you're anything like me, and so many people I know, you're sitting there going, what can I do about it? Is there any role I can play? And my guest today is going to help us answer that question. A few years ago, I put out the call to my community that I was going to take women on a retreat in Greece. And I didn't know who was going to show up. But frankly, Josh and I wanted to go to Greece. I'm like, great. Let's lead a retreat. Awesome. And a woman who I had never met showed up. And within five minutes, okay, maybe not that but y'all know I like to exaggerate a little bit. But nearly immediately, I looked at this woman and I said, will you please run for president the united states. There's just something about her that was so in alignment, so full of integrity. Such a clear leader with such wisdom to offer. And of course, she laughed and she'll still laugh. But this woman is our guest today. And though she's not president united states yet, or maybe ever, she is fulfilling her mission now. She and I had been working together first in the Goddess on Purpose course and then in my Goddess on Fire mastermind. She and I have been working together to bring her mission of leveling up the human species to life. Yes, she's that bold to say she is here to level up the human species. And we're going to talk about that. Through her personal and leadership coaching her leadership development and her writing, Colleen Osborne serves others in their quest for personal discovery, growth and having a meaningful impact on the world. She's the owner of Osborne Associates Consulting, a business which is devoted to helping humans and purpose driven organizations achieve their full potential. She's a catalyst for growth, revolution and change in individual, organizational and societal levels. She is leveling up the human species. She deeply believes in hope and views hope as an active endeavor. Her blog alive with hope is so so so good. And her daily newsletter, the Good News and Good Dos spreads hopeful messages and teaching all of us encouraging all of us how to change the world one tiny action at a time. She is also a coach where she works with people on overcoming imposter syndrome so that you, too, can get your purpose out in the world. She has 30 years of professional experience spanning Human Resources, training, development, leadership development, coaching, mediation, and so much more. Colleen also enjoys meditation, qigong, she's taught me and our Goddess on Fire group qigong, time with her husband Hugh and building community in wheat Ridge, Colorado where she lives and where she also started a tiny pantry for people to be able to eat as they deserve. Colleen, I freaking adore you. Welcome to the PurposeGirl Podcast.
Hi, Carin. It is so wonderful to be here with you today.
Carin Rockind 4:51
So I know we joke about you being President of the United States. But what I saw in you and what I felt from you was that passion for justice for each and every human, being treated equally and having equal opportunity. And now that I've gotten to be with you for the last year and Goddess on Purpose and Goddess on Fire, and this clarity around leveling up, tell us what leveling up the human species means.
Yeah, well, it's, it's about continuing our evolution. But it's, it's not so much the physical evolution at this point. It's our consciousness, it's how we look at and think about the world around us. Most of my life, I've lived probably like a lot of people, like, knowing there were problems in the world, and on some level, caring about them, knowing there are starving children around the world, sadly, knowing there's genocide happening, you know, like, there's some heavy things going on in our world. And this leveling up idea is, it's, it's going beyond knowing and caring, that these things are happening. It's finding a way to engage, not just living each day of our lives, as our lives but having this broader awareness of these bigger challenges. And in some way, every day, trying to reach beyond our little circle in our lives to touch somebody, you know, outside of that little circle in our lives.
Carin Rockind 6:38
Mm. It can feel so overwhelming.
Carin Rockind 6:42
Right? Like you said, there's so much. And I listed a few at the beginning of the show. And those are just really a few things happening here in the United States. And, and just that is overwhelming. And then you think about what's happening. And, you know, sometimes my brain is like, alright, I just need a bag of chips and go watch TV, because it's too overwhelming. Right? And I love your approach, because you're all about taking one teeny, tiny action.
Yeah, absolutely. These things, if we think - if we let ourselves think about all of them, and in their full magnitude, it is paralyzing. It's absolutely overwhelming. And so in my newsletter, the good news and good dos, really encourage people to try to think small and start local, you know, so a little over a year ago, my husband and I started this little free food pantry. And I had seen an idea like this actually at a church a few miles from my house, I'd seen it a few years before, and I wanted to do it then because I cared. I cared that there was hunger, you know, even in my neighborhood. But two years ago, I stopped myself, that like critical voice spoke up and said, like, Who do you think you are? You're not it. So the one I had seen was at a church. And they call it a blessing box. And, you know, the the critical voice was like, well, you're not a church. What are people gonna say, if you put up a food pantry in your front yard? Well, it took the pandemic, you know, and all of these just incredible reports of people suffering and people losing their jobs, and, you know, families not having enough food to eat. And finally, literally one day, we took a folding table that we had in our basement, and we took food out of our own pantry. And I took a cardboard box. And I wrote, you know, little free pantry on it with a marker. And that was the start of our little free pantry. So like there's always something to be done.
Carin Rockind 8:45
Right? And isn't that amazing? It sounds like your brain was getting in the way and making it this huge thing, right? As if you had to, like build Noah's Ark, you know, you had build a huge structure. And I love that you took a cardboard box and a marker, which we all have, and you just wrote little food pantry.
Carin Rockind 9:03
And then you just put a few boxes or cans of food. And that was it.
And what has stunned me about that was like initially, it was my - it came from this place of me needing to do something to help others. And I really had no idea how it was going to inspire the generosity of others. Everybody, like really, almost all of us want to be generous. We want to help. And so, you know, early on some days at the end of the day, there was more food on that table at the end of the day than there was at the beginning. Some days we found money, dollar bills and coins and you know things stuffed in our little box that wasn't intended to take people's money. After we set up my husband actually built with plans from an organization called little free pantry dot org, he actually built a physical structure.
Carin Rockind 10:00
Oh, he did?
And that is our pantry. And then after that had been up for a little while, one day, and I put some cards in there with our address, mostly for people to be able to find it again. But one day, somebody sent me a check in the mail, and it was made out to little free pantry. I couldn't cash it because it wasn't made out to me. But anyway, like that was a long story and I, I almost returned the check to the woman, because I couldn't cash it. I thought, this is somebody that $20, it was a check for $20, it matters, that amount of money mattered in their world. So I didn't want to just not cash the check. But I thought better a bit, and smart people helped me figure that out, and I wrote, this was in Spanish, this check was written in Spanish, I wrote a letter back to this person in Spanish and explained that I couldn't cash it. And you know, what was stunning was she wrote back and she sent a $40 check. So like, all along the way, I just keep being stunned by people's need and desire to help and be generous.
Carin Rockind 11:02
That is such a beautiful story. And it's real. And you're right, we each do want to be generous. And like you said, we don't know how, and maybe we have these ideas, and they just, we think who am I to do that? Or I'll look silly, or no one's gonna really want that. You know, I'm not the church, I'm not God, whatever it might be, right. And your example just shows that we just kind of have to just do it. Right. You know, I'm a big fan of just saying do the damn thing. And we just have to do it and do it imperfectly and give something a try. And then look what's happened. You're creating opportunity calling for other people to do the action that they wanted to do.
Yeah. Yeah. That's been amazing.
Carin Rockind 11:52
Yeah. You know, it's really how we change the world. Right? It's like one of us at a time.
Unknown Speaker 11:58
Yeah, I mean, we, honestly, what I'm learning is like we uplevel each other. When one of us is bold, and takes the action, it creates the space and like the permission for other people to then step into their desire to be generous, to be brave.
Carin Rockind 12:16
Yes, yes, yes. It's the ripple effect of purpose. Truly, the ripple effect of that brave action. And it's inspiration, right? I mean, inspiration, the word literally comes from the root, to breathe into, it's like you're breathing life into, almost like a glass blower where you're breathing life into. And that's what one action can do. I told you recently that I saw your newsletter come in, and I didn't even open it. But the headline was about the landfill. And it just made me in that moment that day reminder to recycle everything. Right. And I think what you've helped me see and me do is to take the small action, even if I can't solve all of genocide, and I can't solve all child hunger, and I can't - each little action counts.
Each little action counts. Yeah, yeah. I wrote, so this hasn't run yet on the good news and the good dos, but I wrote a piece that will go out next week about the concept of agency. And I've heard you talk Carin about agency. And, you know, it's the idea that our actions have impact, they have impact for ourselves in our own lives, they have impact beyond us. And, you know, that's what I'm trying to get people to grasp, and like to take hold of, and not let go of is this idea that if, if each of us believes that our tiny actions have impact, and each of us tries little things in our own world, we can change the world. But it's that choice to see that we have agency versus believing that we can't have any impact.
Carin Rockind 14:04
And you know, there's a few quotes that I wrote in that piece about agency. You know, one is, so Wayne Gretzky said, you always miss 100% of the shots you don't take. So like if we never try. We never accomplish it.
Carin Rockind 14:22
The other quote was Henry Ford that said, if you think you can't do a thing, or you think you can do a thing, either way, you're right. So believing that we can have impact and then doing the little tiny thing closest to us, the smallest thing we can do. And what I found, too, is that by doing the little, littlest, tiniest thing close to us, for me anyway, like it's enabled bigger action and bigger action and bigger action.
Carin Rockind 14:53
Say more about that.
Unknown Speaker 14:55
I've not always been this person, right, that went beyond caring inside to taking action on the outside. And it was, like strangely very hard for me to step into action. I can't tell you like how many years of I don't know, sort of conditioning I had to shed to put that little free pantry up. And, you know, so doing that, you know, and then having a like putting a formal installation with concrete in the ground of a little free pantry. It's like taking a stake in the ground and saying, I'm going to do this.
Carin Rockind 15:30
I am doing this.
I am doing this.
Carin Rockind 15:33
I am, right? It's - this is done.
Yeah. And then I started, because I felt like I wasn't reaching enough people fast enough, we started carrying food and water in our car. And I started approaching people who were on the side of the road you know, panhandling or even people who appear to be homeless that aren't panhandling. But I've made friends with people, you know, and now I'm serving on a county wide task force that's trying to address homelessness, like a little step. I don't know, like a little - a little bit made me think, okay, I can do more. I can do more, I can.
Carin Rockind 16:10
Yeah. It gave you that, it gave you that confidence, it gave you that agency, it gave you that, you know, reinforcement, right? It's almost like we just have to unblock like the first thing. And then we do it and we see okay, I can do something, oh, I am making a little impact. Okay, now I can do more. You mentioned though the shutting. Right. And you and I have talked a lot about imposter syndrome. And you were like, who am I to uplevel society, like, who am I to uplevel all of the human species? And I think if you share that journey with people it would be so inspiring, because we all have that thought, who am I to, right? Whatever your thing is out there, if your thing is working with kids that they feel confident, or your thing is creating gluten free baked goods for your community, like whatever your thing is, right? We all have that voice that says who am I to do that?
Yeah. And that voice, and I've been doing some, some training, some classes around dealing with this inner critic and this imposter syndrome. You know, that voice has some kind of positive intention for us. And it's hard to know that. It is it's trying to keep us safe. And small is safe. And you and I have had conversations about this. And, you know, for me to step into this idea of talking about leveling up the human species, you know, I had to get to a place of holding it with a lot more lightness like who am I to talk about leveling up the human species? Well, I'm the schmuck who's willing to do it. And actually, there are a lot of people, you know, who in their own way, they're not using that language, but they're working on it. They're doing it in their own way. But, you know, so who am I? Well, I'm somebody who really cares. Who am I? I'm somebody who's willing to read articles about genocide and hunger and blah, blah, blah, you know, I'm, I'm somebody who cares and is willing to give it a shot. And if my action, if me speaking out makes it safe or okay for anybody else to then walk that path with me I'm willing to, like tread that new territory.
Carin Rockind 18:32
Yes, yes, thank you for being willing to try that territory. I remember that moment in our coaching session. This is when you're in the Goddess on Fire program, which is the mastermind that I do, that I don't even usually advertise or promote, it just kind of works out. Right? A group of women come together. And I remember we were in our coaching session, and there was this, there's this heaviness, how am I going to solve world hunger? Right? And I remember that shift as we felt into this part of you that wanted to keep you small and safe. Can we bring levity to it? Can we bring that lightness to it? That was when you said, yeah, I'm the schmuck who's willing to do it, you know, and, yeah, I was like, yeah, let's have some lightness around our purpose. And not make it this - yes, it's important work, obviously. And if we see it as this huge thing, it becomes heavy and pressure, and then I think then there's a tendency to not take any action.
Yeah, and, you know, part of I guess the decision to step into that was, it's about being willing to be seen and potentially look foolish, you know? So somebody could read the good news and the good dos and go, really? Like who is this woman to think she can write about leveling up the human species? Well, yeah, you know, I guess part of it is the being willing to be seen and look foolish and part of it is trying to walk that road myself, I can't level anybody else up. Really what I can do is share the journey that I'm on, you know, and so my good news and good dos, I like, I don't know, I have a piece that'll run this Friday about the relationships that I formed with these couple of unsheltered or homeless people in my community. You know, I can't tell you really to go make friends with homeless people. But I can share what I've learned and what my experiences have been. So really, like, who am I? I'm walking this path of trying to uplevel myself, and writing about it and sharing it, willing to look stupid and foolish and willing to make mistakes. You know, because I care, because there's so many problems that need us. They need us, they need us to come together. They need us to look beyond our daily lives, and find tiny ways to start making a difference.
Carin Rockind 20:55
Oh, my godess yes. Do you all see why wanted her to be President of the United States or really any country that she chose to? Do you all see? Like, you, you inspire me so much, Colleen, you know I told you before that for me, you are a mirror to my highest integrity. And that's a compliment, right? Like you really put the mirror in front of me of let me look inside and where are the places that I want to take action and the things that I see are wrong, and how I can contribute. And that's amazing. You know, I've heard you say the world changes when we change.
Yeah, I mean, that's what like the last year has been this incredible year of discovery for me. And I really have come to believe that these huge problems, they're not insolvable, they just require us to show up. So when we each really look at our lives, and look for these little ways to have impact, a little free pantry, you know, composting, so we're putting less in the landfills, looking a homeless person in the eye, instead of shunning them. And looking away. Those actions have impact. And, and these big problems just take a lot of us making little steps. So, you know, the big, the big world changes when each of us make those tiny little steps in our lives.
Carin Rockind 22:28
Hmm. It's so true, and is hitting my heart in such a like, deep way. You know, I'm thinking about a webinar I actually did last night, where some women were saying, what is my part to do? Right? Is it the pantry? Is it some action around immigration? Is it some action around racial justice? And you've written in your blog about everyone having a labor of love project.
Carin Rockind 22:58
Is that how each person comes to know what is their piece to do?
Yeah, and so labor of love isn't the term that I coined, I borrowed that from an organization that I adore, called service space. You know, they they talk about the idea that in the world, each of us can have a project, a labor of love, something we do, not because it's a paying job, not because it's, it's gonna, like make us rich, but we do it because it like it comes directly out of our hearts, it is our way to contribute, to make a difference in the world. And, you know, I, I don't know it in my head, but I know it in my heart, that the world will change when each of us commit in some tiny but regular way to acting on these, you know, like humanistic impulses that we all have. The world changes when we each say, you know what? I'm going to make space in my life for one thing that I do that makes a difference. Just one.
Carin Rockind 24:08
Yeah. And you said something important there that I kind of want to put a picture frame around - tiny but regular.
Yeah, yeah. So you know, doing something once? Great. Doing it on an ongoing and sustained basis? That's where it can have impact. So, you know, recycling once, good. Recycling, you know, every day at home, better. And even thinking about going beyond that. Like, I don't know if you've read about this in my good news and good dos, but like there's stores that sell you all kinds of household products where you bring your own containers, so you're not buying the, you know, plastic every single time. So doing that on a regular basis, like that adds up. It has impact.
Carin Rockind 24:54
Colleen, this is what I freaking love about you, because it's like in my head, I'm thinking okay, I can go, let's say and work in a shelter or food, you know, pantry once, when I'm thinking, regular? How am I going to find time for regular? And you just took that down to the most basic, easy regular thing I can do. I need detergent. So I may as well go find the bulk detergent.
Carin Rockind 25:21
That's what I freakin love about you, is making these purposeful actions so doable.
Unknown Speaker 25:30
Yeah, and you know, if your thing is hunger, could you organize like monthly a collection in your neighborhood of canned goods and take those to a food pantry in your neighborhood or in your area? Like, you know, that's, that's not hard, honestly. And your neighbors would be grateful for the opportunity, if you if you created the opportunity, they would feel great about contributing.
Carin Rockind 25:54
You are so right. You are so right, I'm just thinking about how our neighbor's house burned down about maybe three, four years ago. And we all wanted to do something, what do I do? You know? And the only thing I could think to do was put fliers all around saying, Come donate whatever you have for them here. Here's the size of their kids, right, here's the size of the parents, like they need everything. And we had neighbors coming by all day long, every day for about a week. I mean when we had to turn, turn, not turn people away. But like at some point, please take this extra stuff, you know, down and donate elsewhere. And you're right people do want to contribute. Maybe we just don't know that one place. And by creating it, and this is where I think you are so helpful is giving people the ideas like that. Because I don't know why but my brain hadn't thought of that. Right? And so you giving the ideas is so helpful, because I think a lot of people don't know, okay, what is something that I can do? You know, when people are thinking about what to do, Colleen, you wrote a blog post about righteous anger. That was so powerful. And I'm wondering if you'll share a little bit more about that.
Yeah. So I'm going to tell you a little bit of a funny story that sort of leads into this. So leading up to the election in in the fall of 2020 and all the things that were going on in the US, right? I mean, you know, people, families did not have enough food to eat. And I'm, I hate to go partisan, but I'm going to. I was super concerned. You know, and I was doing my bit, right, I had my free food pantry, I was feeding the people I could feed. And yet I felt super strongly that on a national level, we needed to be doing something to address this problem. So there was a senator in Colorado, who was up for reelection. And the man was, was like, impervious to influence and honestly, it felt like, to compassion. And I called that man five days a week. I'm not kidding. Some days, some weeks, it was seven days a week, I didn't leave just one message. Some days, it was three, or it was seven messages, there were so many things I was upset about. And what I discovered during that time, I mean, this was like almost maybe six months of calling virtually every day, I would get angry. I was so angry that there were these conditions of suffering in this country, that leaders and I'm almost wanting to use air quotes around the word leaders because this man was not leading. They were failing to address. And I, for a woman who meditates every single day, I could not understand how within an hour of meditating, I was no kidding on the phone, yelling, leaving a message for this person. And a lot of people thought I was crazy and I was torturing myself doing this, because it wasn't having impact. But the whole thing had impact for me. And I learned that it's okay to be angry about these conditions of inequality. It is absolutely right to be angry about these things. And the thing I learned in tandem with that was in being angry, we also need to stay in relationship with the people we're angry at. There's a really dangerous force at work in this country of othering, of casting our fellow citizens as dangerous because they don't look like us or they don't think like us. And so I realized that like, anger, when held with love for a fellow human, is powerful beyond measure. Anger combined with fear or hate is destructive and it will tear us apart. So holding anger with love is like one of the tenants that I've learned and I'm telling you those months of calling this guy, they were painful. But that was a super important lesson for me to learn.
Wow, how do we do that? Because I found myself so angry, so angry and I, I, I can feel it in my body right now it's coming up. Like, I'm so angry that some of the lies are still being told and still being passed down and against people's interest, right? People are hungry people are out of jobs. And so I could, I could still get very angry right now. How do we hold anger with love?
It's hard. You know, this is like part of the evolution thing. I feel like we are being called on to find almost a god like love for our fellow citizens, love without regard for people's bad behavior. It's loving them back into the fold. It's loving them and, and, like, I, I'm trying to find empathy for people who are acting badly. And I'm not gonna lie, it's hard. But if we believe - whatever your concept of a higher power is, I choose to only believe in a higher power that is about love. And so that higher power, I believe, loves us, regardless of what we do. And there's a lot going on on this earth today that is evidence of humans behaving badly. But that higher power in my concept loves us anyway. And they see that we are capable of more, and we as humans, it is - it's taking a step in our evolution to say, I see you, I see you hurting, I see you behaving badly, I see you hurting others, and I know you're capable of more, and I am going to stay in relationship with you. And we together are going to do better. This is hard.
Carin Rockind 32:04
Mm-hmm. This is hard. And that's how we do it. And I'm, I know that this is why you need to meditate every day for an hour. You need qigong and you need all these practices that allow you to stay full because of this, right? Because that's, that's a lot to hold. And it's so much easier, right? You talk about leveling up human species, part of our human species is like, can get lazy or get greedy or get, right? And it's like, no, you and I took an antiracist course together. And you talked about having dialogue with people who feel differently than you do or who maybe are ignorant. And that's a beautiful, powerful thing to do.
It is and I don't want to put myself out there as the example of doing it and doing it well. Like these are things that I'm working up to, honestly, holding conversations. I've done it a little bit in ways that felt safe. But having conversations with people with a radically different worldview and trying not to sit in a place of judgment but be curious. I honestly believe we can solve these problems. And the only way we can do it is by listening with each other.
Carin Rockind 33:32
Okay, now do you all see why I wanted her to run for president the united states? Like come on? You're so humble Colleen. Oh. So in your journey that I've witnessed, right from Greece, where you were still in your other full time work, until now where this is - you're clear in your purpose and you're moving forward. As we talked about, that overcoming the imposter syndrome was a piece that you needed to do and probably need to do on a frequent basis. I know I do. Still, it comes up. It's not like you, you solve it once and then it goes away. And I know that this is something that you're teaching now as well.
Unknown Speaker 34:16
Yeah, yeah, that, you know, inner critic and imposter syndrome, I realized that that, like dealing with that, working through that, and you're right, you don't do it once and be done with it. But it's having a process a way to deal with that as it keeps coming up. Like that's been incredibly important for me on this journey. So, yeah, you know, I realized that I had some insights around it, I sort of have a framework that at least organizes my thinking about it. So I'm teaching that, you know, it's part of what I'm coaching with people. Yeah, I feel like each of us working through those issues, because I really believe every human has that to a degree. And if we don't, there's probably something that's not normal in that person's like makeup, you know. And so I'm not saying nobody, nobody doesn't have it. Double negative.
Carin Rockind 35:15
We all have it. Or, most of us have it.
But, but I think I'll have all of us. But to unleash the power of human potential, we need to work through this. So it's super important that we each find a way to deal with this.
Carin Rockind 35:29
So we can bring our best. The world needs our best, and the world needs it now.
Hmm. That is so true, right? We need to get over our imposter syndrome, we need to realize that we are not imposters. I was working with a client yesterday, who started with the who am I to do this? And so I said, Okay, well, let's look into who are you to do this? Like, let's just answer the question. And I said, and what else? And what else? And we came up with a list of at least 20 reasons why she is the right person to do this. One of her things was, I'm too old. And then how do we Okay, what is true about you being your exact age, and we went through all the wisdom of her life experience. Right? And so it's like, who are you to do this? You are you to do this. And I love that you teach people in your coaching and in your work to shift that. So Colleen, we've talked about so much. And you know, something that I'm so inspired by you is that you do seem to stay grounded through doing all this really hard work. How do we do that? How do we stay centered and grounded through when we have imposter syndrome, when we want to change the world and it seems like our actions aren't enough, when we have that anger, even if it's anger and love, how do we stay grounded and centered through it all?
Unknown Speaker 37:01
Well, personally, I think having some regular, again, you hear regular, regular practices that we do. So for me, meditation is how I start every single day. And it makes me better in ways that I don't even necessarily consciously know. But some things I do know about meditation, you know, it helps us stop. We like notice our thoughts and interrupt them. And I think that's part of tapping into our power is stopping the reel of thoughts that run in our head that sometimes we're not even aware of, we have to gain awareness of it, and then say, wait, oh, there's that critical voice. Oh, you know, she's talking. She isn't necessarily speaking truth. So it's that. So some kind of regular practice, yours might not be meditation, but some kind of mindfulness, prayer. So it's connecting to, I guess, the quietness inside of us. And then, you know, for me, one thing that has been incredibly important over the last year is purposefully going after good news, inspiring news, stories of humans being brave and courageous. So an organization I mentioned before, service space, they have a website called Karuna-virus. Karuna, is the Sanskrit word for compassion. And they created this website, you know, early in the pandemic, with this tagline of Karuna spreads faster than Corona. So it's all these stories of people being, you know, compassionate and courageous. And anyway, the website helped me from the time I saw it, and then I started volunteering with them. And every day, I read two good news stories, and I write this couple sentence summary of it. And it's been transformational, this impact of staying, every day, connected to good news. Like, I need it. Actually on Sunday, I got into do my little volunteer gig. There were no stories to summarize, and it was like, whoa.
Carin Rockind 39:15
No! I need my stories! And this is what you're offering to people with the good news and the good dos.
Yeah, so the idea with the good news, and the good news is not in the religious context, but it's literally, I'm linking to some of these little story summaries from the Karunavirus site. These stories overwhelm me, they bring tears to my eyes, and they help me know that I can. So you know, it's the good news that helps us know, we see that humans are doing good in the world. And if other people can do it, we can do it. And then the good dos is where I try to create little bite sized tiny actions. And honestly, I'm learning it's a lot of reflection, we can't just go out and do do do. But it's about our way of being in the world. So the good news and the good dos helps us like connect to the goodness that's there, look at ourselves and do that personal work, you know, the on the inside work, and then we can go out and be the change.
Carin Rockind 40:20
It's so good. So I know people listening are going to want to know, how do I get the good news and good dos? How do I support your work? What can I do? Can I take a training in imposter syndrome? All of the above. How do I take tiny action? Where do we send them?
Unknown Speaker 40:37
Yeah, so in your show notes, Carin, there will be a link for the good news and the good dos. It's through a platform called substack. You can sign up and and receive those. And it's a five day a week email. I am offering another imposter syndrome and inner critic class. But I will be offering that regularly.
Carin Rockind 40:58
People can email me, I'll go ahead and, Carin -
Carin Rockind 41:02
I'll put that in the show notes too.
There we go. People can email. And my blog is called alive with hope it's www dot alive with hope dot com. So yeah, we need hope in this world. And then we need action.
Carin Rockind 41:15
Do we ever. Do we ever, do we ever. Colleen, I always learn so much with and from you. Thank you so much. I also am curious if you would share, just if anyone's curious, what did all the goddess work do for you? To get you here?
Oh, yeah, boy, that's a big question. It was a lot about creating a space where it was safe to, like think out loud and envision, like try on this bigger role. And it was the supportive community that, you know, at the moments when I would have shrunk back down, the community stopped me from shrinking, and they held space for this bigger, bigger role and bigger person that I could be.
Carin Rockind 42:06
I love you, love you, love you, Colleen. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 42:09
I love you too Carin and I just want you to hear, I wouldn't be here without you. I would not have arrived at this point in my life without you.
Carin Rockind 42:19
I'm so honored sister. Thank you for letting me in, in partially guiding and supporting you because your work is so important. Colleen, talk about being a Goddess on Purpose. I mean, I have chills. You. You are the epitome. You are the embodiment. And I thank you for that. Thank you for the work that you do. Thank you for that. Especially cause I think I know in my head before I got started with all of this, I used to think I've got to - I have Oprah vision, right? It's got to be like huge. And that's why I say you're a mirror for me of remembering that every tiny action matters. So Colleen, you know, with all my guests, I like to do this thing called a purpose power play round. And it's when I ask very random questions that have nothing to do with anything. And just whatever's the first answer that comes to your mind is the correct answer. You down?
Okay, let's do it.
Carin Rockind 43:16
Okay. First one, easy one. How about a book that everyone should read?
Hmm. Um, you know, I just finished a book, I'm gonna struggle to come up with the name. It's by Rachel Naomi Remen. She's a doctor and honestly a philosopher. And it's like stories, kitchen table wisdom stories that heal.
Carin Rockind 43:35
She's a beautiful soul doing beautiful stuff in the world.
Carin Rockind 43:39
Oh, that sounds beautiful. That sounds beautiful. Tell us the five year vision.
Hmm, Holy moly. You know, I don't even know if I have a five year vision. But if I made it up right now, I don't know, Carin, I might actually be figuring out how to unearth the landfills. Remember, we talked about this? I had this crazy idea.
Carin Rockind 44:04
I love you so much.
Empty the landfills and figure out how we really dispose of the waste. So maybe in five years, I'll be doing that.
Carin Rockind 44:13
Do you all see, is anyone else joining me in the Colleen Osborne for president campaign? 2024 or maybe 2028 depending on what Biden does? I mean, come on. So good. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. What did you want to be when you were a little girl?
Oh, that's funny. So I just wanted to be like a mom and a wife, a homemaker.
Carin Rockind 44:39
Interesting. Well, that, the essence of that is love.
Carin Rockind 44:45
And you are love in this world, that's for sure.
I'm trying to be.
Carin Rockind 44:50
I feel like we're all your kids. Like you're mothering every person that you're feeding and mothering and obviously befriending all the beautiful humans, you know, that are unsheltered. I love that you said that over homeless.
Carin Rockind 45:08
Yeah. Alright, last question. What's the one thing that you want every woman listening to know?
Well, so Carin, this is sort of your message. And I guess it doesn't hurt to reinforce it. Each of us has something the world needs, you know, and there is no other moment than right now. I feel like, you know, we're sort of on the edge of either solving these problems, coming together to be on the path to solve these problems, or things, really, sadly, going a different direction. So we're at choice. This is the moment to bring absolutely every thing you have to the game, to this world. There's no other moment, but now.
Carin Rockind 46:00
A-woman sister. There is no other moment but now, this is the moment that we were waiting for. This is the moment we were born for. Colleen, you speak to my soul, you level up my humanity. You remind me of what is possible. And you empower me to take action. And I know that you have done the same for every single person listening to this. So thank you, thank you. Thank you for being on the PurposeGirl Podcast. I freaking love you. Love you. Love you. Love you. Love you. Who would have known from swimming in our pool at our villa in Greece until now that this is where would be? Who would have known?
No idea. I had no clue.
Carin Rockind 46:50
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